Lineage 1 Intro:

(click here to return to the full result grid)

On this page you will find the dna "signature" charts for two separate matched lineages:

  • Lineage 1a George and Jennet (FINLAY) RUNCIMAN
  • Lineage 1b William of Crail
  • Possible Lineage 1 tree

  • Where relationships are known, charts are easy to compile, however we do not know exactly how these two related lines connect, either within Lineage 1a, or from 1a to 1b. 
    For 1a, the current assumption is that John & Betty (FAMILTON) RUNCIMAN had a son who was the forbear of the rumoured to be "cousins" Michigan lines of William and Mary (BROWN)  RUNCIMAN and of James & Isabella (CARTER) RUNCIMAN .

    A representative of this latter line is still sought, and would be most welcome (check out the Wanted! pages).

    George & Jennet (FINLAY) RUNCIMAN:

    Only two participants to date, matching 66/67, so no conclusions can really be reached other than it does look like the relationship has been proven.

    A participant to represent the line of James and Isablla (CARTER) RUNCIMAN would be most welcome!

    Lineage 1a "Signature" George & Jennet (FINLAY) RUNCIMAN
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    David W. Runciman
    Hugh I. Runciman
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    Male Runciman
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    Andrew B. Runciman
    Emery A. Runciman
    Gerald A. Runciman
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    William D. Runciman
    George A. Runciman
    Lawrence A. Runciman
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    The connection from William back to John and Betty (FAMILTON) RUNCIMAN is theoretical, although the dna results do show that the two participants are definitely related.
    Family Tree DNA's Time Predictor showing 82% probability of a common ancestor by 8 generations given it is known there isn't a connection within 4 generations (without this information the predictor said 88% by 6 generations, 95% by 8).

    Likewise the linkage between William and James is also theoretical assuming that they were cousins, not brothers.
    The project would love to hear from a male RUNCIMAN surnamed descendant willing to join the project to test this theory out.

    William & Elizabeth (JAMIESON) RUNCIMAN:

    And now two more matching participants in Lineage 1, with an excellent match (66/67) between Jim (R-7) and Jerry (R-2)

    Lineage 1b "Signature" William & Elizabeth (JAMIESON) RUNCIMAN of Crail
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    John Runciman
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    Although Jim (R-7) is an excellent match to David (R-1) and Jerry (R-2), the known information doesn't immediately show where the links might be.
    My current theory that William of Crail was the son of Robert and Janet (Sinclair) Runciman, and brother of the Thomas who married Alison Grieve, forbears of Sir Steven is looking better.
    Sir Steven Runciman's grandfather did believe that the Walter who married his "cousin" Marion, were related to the Wanton Walls Runciman family.
    If my theory can be proved, maybe he was right after all?
    DNA results just in (Aug 2010) do show that one descendant, Jim(R-10) is a match to descendants of both the William of Crail and the Wanton Walls lines, but further confirming signatures from Thomas and Alison's line would be most welcome to add weight to this.

    Lineage 1 Theoretical DNA Signature:

    A very tentative attempt at linking the four lines now known to be genetically related
    The generations shown here are based on the 93% probability that R-7 and R-1 share a common ancestor within 10 generations, but it could actually be that the RUNCIMAN dna simply hasn't mutated much, with any link being further back.
    Peter (R-12) is given as 93% within 12 generations to Jerry (R-2), but I've connected him, rightly or wrongly, as shown because one of his differences is on a faster mutating marker.
    More results should help.
    (Compare eg the FAIRBAIRN results, where a number of lines are readily identifiable by separate mutations)

    RUNCIMAN Lineage 1 dna results - differences only
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